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Part II: Examining the Education Claim for Dual Citizenship Print E-mail
Written by Chorphie Charlie   
Monday, 18 August 2008
 In part one , the economic analysis of dual citizenship discussed the pareto criterion and recognized that social cost is negative to grant dual citizenship for economic benefits. We were exposed to the intrinsic paucity in the dual citizenship’s claimed of economic supremacy.

For Coase, negative cost of social utility results to inequality, and assignments of legal rights under such conditions creates sufferings for ordinary citizens. We now turn to the education claim for dual citizenship.

Dual citizenship proponents echoed a familiar Liberian political discourse, which dislocated the entire social fabric of our nation; an additional claim to their economic supremacy that our national social transformation should be the province of educated Liberians. Although persuasive, this educated reasoning demands that social engineers must deconstruct all existing traditional Liberian institutions-a radical transformation process that view traditional Liberians as inferior and lacking the understanding of nation building. We witness the recent attempt by government to discard the Liberianization policy which is gear toward promoting the business interest of ordinary citizens-this is the posture of dual citizenship.

 

1st Argument:

One group of Liberians, D, is Pareto superior to T, if and only if, T education is devalue and that T education is given no consideration for social engineering, but D education should get all opportunities for social planning.

Such deconstructionist nature of Dual Citizenship, to disregard the educational value of traditional Liberians has been a constant social variable and repeatedly experimented in the struggle for political pluralism since the beginning of the modern Liberian state.  It was either the colonialist returning their black slaves to civilized the African barbarians; the misanthropic Rice politicians misadventure to deconstruct the TWP oligarchy, which later metamorphose into “phony militarism”  that nearly annihilated the nation-state but surrendered our sovereignty to the unrestrained greed of criminal elements-all this in the name of value education. Thus, the deconstructionist nature of dual citizenship further argues:

2nd Argument:

T education is inferior to D, if and only if T education is not consider as a requirement for national development and  D education is rewarded for political leadership.


The second argument is a paradoxical political discourse, proceeding not from skepticism, lacking in empiricism, but gushing out from dogmatic certainty, nourished by an elitist Pareto criterion ideology. Not surprisingly, this second argument is a crude betrayal of the very dogmatic certainty: that dual citizen possesses the educational gravitas for social engineering the progress of a battered people. For education is a not simply medieval mystic, like Kweetanmore’s witch hunt (that famous Lofa witch doctor), but education proceed from the freedom of scientific inquiry, keystone on objective mechanism to generate empirical support for any social transformation project.

Where is the empirical support for dual citizen’s educated claim? How many people are dual citizens and what are their education credentials? What are the exclusive contributions of dual citizens to the national development project of Liberia? Where do dual citizens reside: in Guinea, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone, Nigeria, Ghana, Burkina Faso, South Africa or only in America? Are dual citizens the only group of educated Liberians? Are dual citizens the only group of Liberians capable of contributing to the national development efforts of Liberia? So what is the reward for traditional Liberians, those Liberian who were PATRIOTIC to their country and did not acquire the citizenship of other nations? What is the reward for Traditional Liberians for also acquiring equal education in advance nations like America, Britain, Canada, France, and etcetera?

It was Comte who argument for “scientific politics,” overtime, of course, led to positivist sociology: the concept that social development (its organization, governance, and engineering) must apply assumptions and methodologies of the natural science to derive principles for understanding human reason.  In this regard, dual citizen must embark on a knowledge-based enterprise, primarily recognizing the social development of traditional Liberians in politics, economics, and nation building. For education ought to function as a tool for social justice based on the principle of mutual dependence. Proponents of dual citizenship must present valid data from systemic observation and explain their reasoning, governed by the principles of social science. But most importantly, dual citizen must present a NATIONALISTIC argument and adopt a more PATRIOTIC course by humanizing their supremacist and elitist beliefs.

To elevate the claim of dual citizenship education value towards the development of Liberia means that proponents must demonstrate the exclusive function of their education, as a supreme social force, otherwise the distortion of education for dual citizenship must be rejected by the people, it loses any and all credibility thus, dual citizenship must not exist in Liberia.

Now here is the question: Is Dual Citizen a ‘monkey work baboon draw' argument?

On the altar of Jehovah I pledge undying resistance to education elitism “Excuse me while I throw out.”
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1. 19-08-2008 14:33
 
I hope Chorphie and those who are preaching aganist dual citizenship in Liberia will learn some lession in this article. 
Dual Citizenship (II): A Win-Win Situation 
By Dibussi Tande 
 
"Worldwide, arguments against dual citizenship have become less compelling, over time, while arguments in favour of dual citizenship have become stronger, and especially over the last 10 to 15 years…" 
 
As we saw in the first part of this article, globalization has dramatically altered the dual citizenship debate in many countries. The political reasons that were once used to reject dual citizenship in the 20th century are today steadily giving way to powerful economic and cultural arguments in favor of dual citizenship. 
 
As a report by Bella consultants (cited by Edmund Bargblor) states: 
 
"Dual citizenship is becoming more common in today's increasingly interconnected economy. Countries such as India, the Philippines and Mexico are now seeking the advantages of dual citizenship by liberalizing their citizenship laws. These countries have realized that dual citizenship has the advantages of broadening a country's economic base, fostering trade and investment between the dual citizen's two respective countries." 
 
This view is shared by Africa’s Brain Drain, an NGO dedicated to turning the brain drain into a brain gain, which argues on its website that:  
 
“Immigration regulations are cited as one of the barriers to exchange of skills and knowledge across borders. Foreign based professionals need to be assured that they would be able to return to their adopted country once they leave. Immigration laws in some industrialized nations require migrants to remain in the country for a specified period or risk losing their residence status. On the other hand, those who have been naturalized in their new country often have to make a choice between that or their home state, as some African countries do not recognize dual citizenship. Hence the need of more African authorities to allow dual citizenship.” 
 
As a leading Ugandan dual citizenship proponent pointed out during Uganda's debate on dual citizenship a couple of years ago: "If dual citizenship is easily available in all of Africa, then it would allow expatriates to return and invest in their birthplace, entice foreign investors and promote cross-border cooperation."  
 
Increasing calls for dual citizenship across the African continent are also driven by a growing recognition that the African Diaspora is making immense contributions to the national economies of African countries, and that this contribution will only increase with the liberalization of citizenship laws. This was the stance taken by Ghana when it finally adopted the Dual Citizenship Regulation Act on July 3, 2002. Speaking during the occasion, Dr. Addo-Kufuor, acting Minister of the Interior at the time, stated that:  
 
“The legislation is a tribute to the great support Ghana has received from her citizens who have been living beyond her shores over the years. This support has been in the areas of economic, technical, social and infrastructural development … The NRGS contribution of 400 million dollars cannot be treated lightly, and so the importance Ghana attaches to NRGS cannot be overemphasized.” 
 
Similarly, when India, a one-time leading opponent of dual citizenship, finally passed a law recognizing dual citizenship in 2003, the motivating factor for this dramatic change of heart was the need to tap into the skills of India’s mammoth Diaspora. According to the Government of India: 
 
“Persons of Indian origin settled in economically more advanced countries of the world have skills and expertise in vital sectors. The facility of Dual Citizenship would foster better co-operation in these sectors by way of investments and transfer of skills and resources.  
 
The need of the PIOs to build emotional and cultural bonds with their will now be strengthened and will facilitate the Diaspora's contribution in India's social Development.  
 
Dual Citizenship would also help to bring about and establish links of the younger generation of the Diaspora with India as they may be keen to keep in touch with their roots.” 
 
Says Bhanoji Rao: 
 
“One can take a sanguine view and extrapolate that India's stand to allow dual citizenship is one more step in its role as an emerging and confident global power which, in the years to come, would help usher in what might eventually lead to the establishment a global citizenry with freedom of movement to pursue opportunities wherever they arise.” 
 
A Bridge to the Foreign Born Generation 
While the dual citizenship debate has generally focused on first generation immigrants who still have direct ties to their countries of birth, there is increasing interest in the children and grandchildren of these immigrants who are born in these foreign countries, and who have only a tenuous link to their parents’ countries of birth. In this case, dual citizenship offers an incentive to reconnect with their roots. Most significantly, it opens up the possibility of them living, working or setting up businesses in their parents’ countries of origin.  
 
In an article on strategies that African countries can use to tap into the potential of its Diaspora communities (“Good Ideas for Using the Diaspora”), e-Africa online journal (Sept. 2003, p 16) makes a strong case for extending citizenship to the foreign born children and spouses of Africans in the Diaspora: 
 
“Many countries are examining how to make it easier for those living abroad with foreign-born children or spouses to return home. Dual citizenship would facilitate the freedom of movement of Africans between developed countries and the continent allowing skills to move as opportunities arise. It will also help prevent well-educated children born abroad from losing touch with Africa.”  
 
This is a policy which countries such as Ireland are already benefiting from. Ireland now has one of the fastest growing economies in the world thanks in part to its "citizenship by descent" laws which allow the third and subsequent generation children born abroad to an Irish citizen to become Irish citizens by simply proving that one of their grandparents was Irish, even if none of their parents was born in Ireland.  
 
A tool for building political clout  
One of the rarely-mentioned benefits of dual citizenship, particularly for countries with well-organized Diaspora communities, is the ability of dual citizens to influence economic and political decisions in their host country in favor of their country of descent. For example, the potential influence of Mexican citizens on the American political system was one of the main reasons why Mexico ultimately abandoned its age-old hostility towards dual citizenship in 1998, and started to actively lobby Mexican nationals in the US who were eligible for US citizenship to take up that citizenship.  
 
In 2002, the Mexican government even organized a series of "nationality fairs” across the US to educate Mexicans on the benefits of dual nationality, encourage them to organize themselves into a potent political force within the US political system, and to use their political strength to influence key issues of interest to Mexicans such as immigration.  
 
Chicago Tribune was on target when it observed that “Foreign countries are increasingly encouraging expatriates… to claim dual citizenship, hoping to capitalize on the political clout and financial resources of those who have built new lives abroad.” 
 
The different flavors of dual citizenship 
The list of countries that accept dual citizenship around the world and in Africa keeps on growing by the day. It is worth noting, however, that the form of dual nationality varies from country to country.  
 
Ghana 
According to Ghana’s Citizenship Act of 2000 which went into effect in July 2002, “A citizen of Ghana may hold the citizenship of any other country in addition to his citizenship of Ghana.” Citizens who lost their citizenship as a result of the previous law which proscribed dual citizenship can regain their Ghanaian citizenship by apply to the Ministry of Interior for reinstatement.  
 
Dual citizens have the same rights as other Ghanaian citizens. However, they cannot occupy certain key positions in the Government, the Army and security apparatus. Some of positions in question include Justices of the Supreme Court, Ambassador, Chief Director of a Ministry, or a Colonel in the Army.  
 
India 
In December 2003, the Indian Parliament passed the Citizenship (amendment) Bill granting dual citizenship to people of Indian origin around the world. The primary objective of this act is to (a) "simplify the procedure to facilitate the re-acquisition of Indian citizenship by persons of full age who are children of Indian citizens, and former citizens of independent India" and (b) "provide for the grant of overseas citizenship of India to persons of Indian origin belonging to specified countries, and Indian citizens who choose to acquire the citizenship of any of these countries at a later date". 
 
Like its Ghanaian counterpart, the Indian citizenship bill lists a number of positions in government that cannot be occupied by overseas citizens of India. For example they cannot become President or Vice President, a Supreme Court or High Court Judge, a member of the House of the People or of the Council of States, or a member of the Legislative Assembly or the Legislative Council. 
 
South Africa 
The South African Citizenship Amendment Act of 2004 which came into effect on 15 September 2004, enshrines the constitutional right to citizenship. Consequently, South Africans can no longer lose their South African citizenship if they become citizens of another country. However, the law requires that South Africans must use their South African passport to enter or leave South Africa, although they can freely use their foreign passports outside South Africa.  
 
A Need for Concerted and Sustained Action 
In practically all the cases where national governments eventually adopted dual citizenship legislation, the change of heart was the result of extensive and sustained lobbying by their respective Diaspora communities. Cameroon is no different. For the issue of dual citizenship to register on the national Richter scale, the Cameroonian Diaspora must craft a coherent and organized lobbying strategy which clearly breaks from the solitary and attempts made so far to get the Government interested in the issue.  
 
For starters, the Diaspora community should create a powerful organization whose sole mission and focus will be on changing article 31 of the Nationality code which prohibits dual citizenship.  
 
Such an organization should rally legal experts, historians, economists, political scientists, etc, to produce a series of position papers which make a comprehensive and compelling case for dual nationality. Once completed, these position papers should be given the widest publicity possible in Cameroon and abroad. The campaign should also include taking out full page ads in leading Cameroonian newspapers 
 
Representatives of the organization should be prepared to go to Cameroon to make their case directly to the Cameroonian people, and to Cameroonian politicians, legislators, the Government, civil society activists, the media, and the business and academic communities. 
 
Like every lobbying effort, there is no guarantee that such a campaign will pay off immediately. The case of India, which is now at the forefront of the dual citizenship movement, is instructive in this regard. The Indian Diaspora community began to actively lobby for dual citizenship as far back as the 1970s during the Government of Prime Minister Moraji Desai who was openly hostile to the concept (Desai is famously remembered for his anti dual-citizenship quip that “no man can serve two masters”). It would take close to 30 years of persistent, unflagging and well-funded and very professional lobbying efforts by the Indian Diaspora and its allies in India to convince Indian politicians and legislators that dual citizenship was indeed a win-win situation.
 
George Toto
2. 19-08-2008 18:06
 
So why not America?
George, your article does not speak to the Liberian condition. 
 
Moreover, if dual citizenship is so compelling for economic progress of all nations then why has America refused to accept dual citizenship? 
 
Dual citizenship only benefits wealthy nations because they can get their second class citizens to easily exploit their homeland.  
 
Liberia has not prevented anybody who naturalized in another country from coming to Liberia. They are free to live in Liberia, they are free to do business in Liberia, and they are free to own properties in Liberia except that we cannot give them political leadership. And this is really what this dual citizenship claim is about for political power. 
 
So why should we pass a special law to reward betrayal? As a matter of fact, these people should not be imposing their will upon Liberia since they are not citizens of our country, they cannot compel us to make them citizen because they have big big degrees.  
 
If they so wish to become a Liberian citizen they are free to apply for Liberian citizenship but they are afriad that if they apply for Liberian citizenship they would lose their American citizenship because according to American laws, any America citizen who apply for citizenship of another country has intentional express to lose their American citizenship. This American law is not different from Liberia. 
 
But more interestingly, why don't these people put pressure on the American government to allow them to apply for citizenship of another country and at the same time keep their American citizenship? Or is it because Liberia is a poor country so they want to expliot our people? 
 
Citizenship is a previledge and not a RIGHT. this is really what this dual citizenship is about--POLITICAL POWER.
 
Chorphie
3. 19-08-2008 22:02
 
So why not America?
Chorphie: 
The argument in this debate should not just center around America. Remember we fought war. liberians were forced to seek refuge in other countries. After war, these are some of the outcome that we should expect.
 
George Toto
4. 19-08-2008 22:35
 
Chorphie
We should accept dual citizenship because the United States accepts it.  
 
Chorphi Quoted: 
If they so wish to become a Liberian citizen they are free to apply for Liberian citizenship but they are afriad that if they apply for Liberian citizenship they would lose their American citizenship because according to American laws, any America citizen who apply for citizenship of another country has intentional express to lose their American citizenship. This American law is not different from Liberia. 
 
Chorphi, that is a big black lie. Name me one case where the United States strip an American of his or her citizenship because he or she applied for citizenship from another country. Yes there is a law that states such, but the United States have never enforced such and does not plan to do so. Dual citizenship depends on the relationship of the two countries. I have a United States passport and call myself a Liberian when I want, and not a damn thing the United States can do about it or YOU.  
 
And guess what, I will not apply for a Liberian citizenship because I am already a Liberian and will remain a Liberian. I will use my U.S. passport, Ecowas passport, and Liberian passport. You and no body will do anything about it. 
 
SOMETHING TO READ: 
 
Dual Nationality 
 
 
The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth. 
 
A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship. 
 
Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance. 
 
However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship. 
 
Information on losing foreign citizenship can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. citizenship in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad. 
 
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
 
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5. 20-08-2008 02:15
 
Dual Citizenship
I want to believe, that Dual Citizenship is already working in Liberia. 
 
A good number of the Monrovia government officials, are American citizens, performing like Liberian. 
 
whenever the subject of Dual Citizenship is up for forum, we should first consider the constitutional implications. 
 
In the case of Liberians becoming American, or other european countries citizens.  
 
The people had no chose, the conflict lasted for years. They and their children should be allow to go home and become Liberians again. 
 
Liberian law makers should make the necessary constitutional provision that will allow her citizens home without panety. 
 
I personally believe that our people should not be resoponsible for leaving a conflict sitution. 
 
The issue is similar to the practical son in the Bible. The father was glad to received his son. He did not asked questions, or apply conditions. There are reasons for this story in the bible. 
 
Liberia should be the home for all Liberians. We left due to conflict. The conflict is over, we should be able to returned without condition.
 
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6. 20-08-2008 06:36
 
Dual CZ exists but....
Mr.Teto's statement:Worldwide, arguments against dual citizenship have become less compelling, over time, while arguments in favour of dual citizenship have become stronger, and especially over the last 10 to 15 years.THIS IS A COMPLET LIE AND CAN NEVER HOLD. 
 
 
I still want to believe that the introduction of DUAL CITIZENSHIP in the entire world was a historical accident and a ludicrous problem that should be given a back kick and stand to be corrected. From my internet research, I learned that in 1997, a French Canadian with a U.S. passport ran for mayor of Plattsburgh, N.Y. He argued that the incumbent spoke French too poorly to be running a city so close to Quebec. He lost.  
 
 
 
Also in 1997, a retired top American official for the U.S. EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) ran for president of Lithuania. He was inaugurated in February to a burst of fireworks!  
 
In 1996, Dominicans from New York not only could vote in the Dominican Republic's presidential elections for the first time, they could vote for a fellow New Yorker.  
 
 
Multiple nationalities have become so commonplace that some analysts fear the trend is undermining the notion of nationhood, particularly in the place with the most diverse citizenry on Earth: the United States.  
 
 
Debate over the issue intensified in the late 1990s, when Mexico joined the growing list of poor nations that say it's OK for their nationals to be citizens of the countries to which they have migrated. Under the law that took effect in 1998 Mexicans abroad - most of them in the United States will be able to retain Mexican citizenship even if they seek U.S. citizenship. And naturalized Americans of Mexican descent will be able to reclaim their original citizenship. The Mexican government stopped short, for now, of giving expatriates the right to vote.  
 
These facts easily suggest that the world is geting to realise the accidential introduction of DUAL CITIZENSHIP in the entire world.  
 
Beside,there are lot of security issues that can even battle the finacial freedom you talk about as a result of dual citizenship. 
 
Security Issues. 
 
Since citizenship carries with it a responsibility to be exclusively loyal to one country, the whole concept of dual citizenship and nationality raises questions about which of the dual citizenships have priority. This is extremely important when the two countries have opposing interests. It can be a deadly problem when a dual citizen is in a high position.  
 
Can one imagine a Japanese citizen serving in the Pentagon during WWII? Or how about a citizen of the Soviet Union holding a cabinet position in the White House during the Cold War?What could eventially happen?  
 
Today's conflicts are centered in the Middle East. America needs to balance foreign policies towards oil producing Arab nations with their's goal being peace and stability in the region. This places a burdon on American government to be even-handed in their dealings with the Arab world and Israel. While the Iraq War was waged on lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction and revenge for 911, the real reason has emerged as a well designed global plan to improve the power and leverage of Israel. Added to this policy is yet another potential blow to American interests and security -- the impending War with Iran.  
 
This war will be waged for the security of Israel and will be paid for by the blood of American soldiers and the hard-earned money of American citizens whose quality of life is inversely tied to the cost of petrolium.  
 
Recently, in their much lauded paper, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, Harvard professor, Stephen Walt, and University of Chicago professor, John Mearsheimer, focused attention on the strong Israeli lobby which has a powerful influence over American foreign policies. They detail the influence that this lobby has exerted, forming a series of international policies which can be viewed as in direct opposition to the interests and security of the American people. These acts and policies are more often than not carried out by US government appointees who hold powerful positions and who are dual American-Israeli citizens. Since the policies they support are often exclusively beneficial to Israel, often to the detriment of America, it has been argued that their loyalties are misdirected.  
 
A few classic examples can be cited here.  
 
Jonathan Jay Pollard was an American-Israeli citizen who worked for the US government. He is well known because he stole more secrets from the U.S. than has any other spy in American history. During his interrogation Pollard said he felt compelled to put the "interests of my state" ahead of his own. Although as a U.S. Navy counter intelligence specialist he had a top-secret security clearance, by "my state" he meant the state of Israel.  
 
Literally tens of thousands of Americans holding U.S. passports admit they feel a primary allegiance to the state of Israel. In many instances, these Americans vote in Israeli elections, wear Israeli uniforms and fight in Israeli wars. Many are actively engaged both in the confiscation of Palestinian lands and in the Israeli political system. Three examples come to mind:  
 
One is Rabbi Meir Kahane, who founded the militant Jewish Defense League in the U.S. in the 1960s, then emigrated to Israel where, eventually, he was elected to the Knesset. Until he was shot and killed at one of his U.S. fund raising rallies in 1990, the Brooklyn-born rabbi shuttled between Tel Aviv and New York, where he recruited militant American Jews for his activities in Israel against Palestinians. He claimed to be a "dual citizen" of America and Israel.  
 
Another Jewish American, James Mahon from Alexandria, Virginia, reportedly was on a secret mission to kill PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat when he was shot in 1980 by an unknown assailant. When he was shot, Mahon held an American M-16 in his hand and a U.S. passport in his pocket.  
 
This evidences and examples should come to the minds of Liberia(a late state in the fight for dual citizenship).W e are not against the advantages there within the execution of this idealogy but stand to EXPOSE THE INNER motives and disadvantages there within.  
 
I don't want to be a president of two nations at the same time.Please don't get me wrong!!!!!  
 
 
 
 
 
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7. 20-08-2008 09:47
 
Dual CZ exists but....
Mr. Togba: 
My name is Toto not Teto. 
You wrote: These facts easily suggest that the world is geting to realise the accidential introduction of DUAL CITIZENSHIP in the entire world. The statement above is incorrect. No country in the world that have introduced dual citizenship see it as a mistake. Rather country that have introduced dual citizenship have gain in economic value and benefit to the its economy and contribute greatly to the development process. 
Read this article. It is from the University of Iowa, Transitional Law and Contemporary Problems: Dual or multiple citizenship (1) is a growing phenomenon in today's increasingly global community. While many countries have historically been opposed to dual citizenship status, dual citizenship has grown more common in the last thirty years. (2) One of the main reasons for this proliferation is that new technologies have helped to dramatically increase travel, communication, and international commerce. (3) Political changes, most notably the fall of the Iron Curtain, have fostered an environment of cross-border trade and investment. (4) Rising levels of education and the spread of democracy and human rights norms have also promoted the globalization of the world community. (5) While it is easy to attribute increasing instances of dual citizenship to economically-motivated immigration, the economic divide between more- and less-developed countries is only one part of the dual citizenship phenomenon. Increasing numbers of people leave their countries of origin to permanently or temporarily settle in foreign countries. (6) Many businesses send workers abroad; these workers sometimes establish permanent ties in their new communities while still holding on to their first national identity. Cross-national marriages have become more common and the children of these marriages often acquire dual citizenship by default. (7) In fact, according to the United Nations (U.N.), more than 185 million people live outside of their country of origin.  
We (Liberians) are afraid of challenges and do not want to think big.I was in Ghana when they introduced dual citizenship. look at the Ghanaians economy and come out with your result.
 
George Toto
8. 20-08-2008 11:23
 
Dual Citizenship
In my view, the topic of dual citizenship should not be a contentious issue at all. 
 
I take that view because the country of Liberia is more important than any Liberian. 
Furthermore, possessing a dual citizenship status is beneficial only to an individual Liberian and not the country of Liberia. 
 
In other words, possessing such a status is a personal decision that's made by an individual or a man and his wife. In that sense, it should be left at that. If anybody wants it, go for it. However, if anyone abhors it, stay away from it. 
 
It is not an act of infantilism to embrace dual citizenship or reject it. It is kind of knavish to say that because XYZ embraced it, therefore, ABC should embrace it as well. No, what's good for the goose, is not "always" good for the gander! 
 
I listened to a Liberian jabber who spoke at an event recently. Apparently, he's one of the proponents of the concept of dual citizenship. The gentleman (if I may call him that) seemed somehow imperious because of the way in which he defended the usefulness of dual citizenship. Nothing in his speech could be a word of caution. Nothing he said could be of benefit whatsoever to the country of Liberia. 
 
There are thousands of Liberians who live in America. For hypothethical purposes, I will estimate that there are one-hundred thousand Liberians in the U.S. 
If ninety-thousand Liberians become dual citizens, how is Liberia blessed or helped? What becomes of the remaining ten-thousand legal Liberian-Americans? 
 
At the present time, all of us who have relatives back home are helping in all conceivable ways. Some of you good Liberians send thousands (if not millions) back home on a monthly basis, maybe. Some of you send cars, clothes, household items. etc. 
 
Does one have to possess a dual citizenship to assist one's relatives or friends at home? Do all of us have to be dual citizens in order for Liberia to be helped? 
 
Possessing the legal status of a dual citizen could be helpful. But, it is indeed a decision that must be made by an individaul. It is not a process whereby Liberians should be defied. Example, there are some Liberians who are saying this: "If the country of XYZ did it, we in ABC country should do it as well. Nooooo, it's an individual thing! 
 
Our focus should be on how Liberia can be helped. As many as we are in America, we can buy new and used textbooks for Liberian schools without having to be "dual citizens". 
Once again, assuming that we're 100,000 thousand Libberians in America, we can raise $500,000.00 in one single event if each of us contributes $5.00 of our lunch money to buy textbooks for our brothers and sisters or children in Liberia. ($5.00 x 100,000.00 = $500,000.00!) That would be "helpful" to the Republic Of Liberia. 
 
Peace!
 
Mr. Jack
9. 20-08-2008 13:54
 
Dual Citizenship
Mr.Toto,Inview of your last comment post#7, You have not arrived at a fair judgement and still have to domonstrate WHY NO COUNTRY HAS SEEN THE INTRODUCTION OF DUAL CITIZENSHIP as an accident. 
 
I told you that it's an accident and infact the entire world has realised the hanking damage of dual citizenship.I lay out some examples and questions that could explain my stand. 
 
 
Please help me ask an American this question'What would have been the faith of America if a Japanees citizen was serving at the Pentagon during World war II? The only answer he will insted give you is deemmmmmm!!!Meanig it would have been unimmaginable. 
 
How about a citizen of soviet union been a cabinet position in the white house during the cold war? 
 
Since citizenship carries with it a responsibility to be exclusively loyal to one country, the whole concept of dual citizenship and nationality raises questions about which of the dual citizenships have priority. This is extremely important when the two countries have opposing interests. It can be a deadly problem when a dual citizen is in a high position.  
 
 
These were not the calculation of the entire world when the idea of dual citizenship was introduced but as time goes back,evidences begin to expose the hanking disasters of dual citizenship. 
 
Mr.Toto, 
 
Didn't you read the below classic examples? 
Jonathan Jay Pollard was an American-Israeli citizen who worked for the US government. He is well known because he stole more secrets from the U.S. than has any other spy in American history. During his interrogation Pollard said he felt compelled to put the "interests of my state" ahead of his own. Although as a U.S. Navy counter intelligence specialist he had a top-secret security clearance, by "my state" he meant the state of Israel.  
 
Literally tens of thousands of Americans holding U.S. passports admit they feel a primary allegiance to the state of Israel. In many instances, these Americans vote in Israeli elections, wear Israeli uniforms and fight in Israeli wars. Many are actively engaged both in the confiscation of Palestinian lands and in the Israeli political system. Three examples come to mind:  
 
One is Rabbi Meir Kahane, who founded the militant Jewish Defense League in the U.S. in the 1960s, then emigrated to Israel where, eventually, he was elected to the Knesset. Until he was shot and killed at one of his U.S. fund raising rallies in 1990, the Brooklyn-born rabbi shuttled between Tel Aviv and New York, where he recruited militant American Jews for his activities in Israel against Palestinians. He claimed to be a "dual citizen" of America and Israel.  
 
Another Jewish American, James Mahon from Alexandria, Virginia, reportedly was on a secret mission to kill PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat when he was shot in 1980 by an unknown assailant. When he was shot, Mahon held an American M-16 in his hand and a U.S. passport in his pocket.  
 
 
Recently,it was made clear that Kivuvu, who has dual-citizenship, has been making his mark in the Eredivisie - the Dutch first division - with NEC Nijmegen.  
 
He has played for the Netherlands under-21 side - but had been asked to commit to Angola in time for Ghana 2008.  
 
"With my two passports and no [full] caps, I can still make the decision to choose for Holland or Angola," he told a Dutch newspaper.  
 
"I am hoping to be part of the Dutch Olympic football team at the Games in Beijing 2008," he said.  
 
Kivuvu may have turned down the chance to go to Ghana, but several stars from Dutch football will be at the Nations Cup.  
 
Four of them will be hoping to star for the home team.  
 
Francis Dickoh, who plays for Utrecht, was in Claude Le Roy's preliminary squad, as were Matthew Amoah and Eric Addo.  
 
Youngster Quincy Owusu-Abeiye was also named in the squad.  
 
He has joint Dutch and Ghanaian nationality, and currently plays in Spain.  
 
The Netherlands has a large population of Moroccan descent, but there are few players with Dutch connections in Henri Michel's interim squad for Ghana.  
 
Only Nouredin Boukhari, who plays for Sparta Rotterdam, has been called up.  
 
PSV Eindhoven midfielder Ismael Aissati, who has joint nationality, has made it clear he would like to fight for a place in the Dutch line Up.  
 
If this was Liberian player Francis G.Doe,what would have been our benefit?  
 
 
As we dreg this issue,I want you to understand my stand as go through,Not only did I question the nature of this idea but the intension.Thinking that the meaning could be different from the actual defination. 
 
The Four Senators Who Sponsored The Dual Citizenship Bill are today trying to intellectualize this bill but failed to give us it's root meaning. 
 
These are people who's idea could have been easily bought but we stand to understand WHAT ARE WE BUYING this time arround. 
 
 
Senator Cletus Wotorson, 
From the Liberian Action Party  
 
If few members of the Liberian senate have their way, the Liberian National Legislature could inflict on the nationality and heritage of Liberia an irreparable harm whose impact could be felt for generations to come when those who are now championing this cause could be, as we say in Liberia, “long and gone”. According to news reports, a group of four Liberian senators, all bearing the “senior” senator title, from Grand Kru, Bong, Cape Mount and Lofa counties, are sponsoring a bill in the Liberian Legislature which in their opinion will redeem Liberians who lost their Liberian citizenship as a result of taking up the citizenship of another country. In justifying their move, the four senators said; “We are seeking the repeal of the Aliens and Nationality Law to provide dual citizenship for Liberians at birth, who lost their citizenship due to the necessities of life and survival”. 
 
 
 
Interestingly, the above justification fails to define what constitutes the “necessities of life and survival” that prompted these Liberians to gave up their Liberia citizenship. As it stands, this justification is left to individual interpretation which in itself raises a red flag as to what are the real intentions of our four honorable senators, Cletus Wotorson of Grand Kru, Jewel Howard of Bong County, Abel Massalay of Cape Mount County, and Sumo G. Kupee of Lofa County. In their justification, these senators deliberately fail to mention how many Liberians are affected and the harm that is impacting Liberia due to the lack of “dual” citizenship law. One would think that these senators and their supporters would have gather the relevant data of not only stating the number of Liberians affected, but specifically name the harm that the Republic of Liberia has endured or enduring because she lack dual citizenship laws. In his letter sent out to the leadership of the Grand Kru County Development Association in Americas, or GKCDAA, Senior Senator Cletus Wotorson made no mention of the level of support such law has in Liberia, but based his reason for this law from what he called “substantial listing from overseas”.  
 
 
 
 
Abel Massalay, 
From the National Patriotic Party  
 
In quoting the The Alien and nationality laws of Liberia in the preamble for their bill, the senators did not mention the part that states that the loss of one’s Liberian citizenship is not perpetual, in other words, you can get back you Liberian citizenship after it has been lost by re-applying. A process that takes about two years. If the only reason behind this so called “Dual” citizenship law was to enable Liberians who lost their Liberian citizenship to regain it, why don’t the senators introduce a bill that would shorten the time to regain your Liberian citizenship to at six months from the time you have re-applied? But instead they are introducing a bill in which those who previously renounced their Liberian citizenship can have their cake and eat it. Please note also that since the 2005 elections, there are more Liberians returning to Liberia rather leaving, and that majority of Liberians who left or fled the country due to the war did not acquire foreign citizenships. Let it be noted also that it is not only those Liberians who acquired foreign citizenship alone are sending money to Liberia for their families  
 
 
 
The senators claimed the framers of the Liberian constitution never “contemplated, intend that, as a consequence of the events surrounding our civil conflict, our people should endure the perpetual hardships of refugees and the attending economic destitutions; as at the time there was no foreseeable end to the carnage and the hardships of the war in Liberia”. This is very, very interesting. There is no where in the world where framers of constitutions based their writings on future negative occurrences. Constitutions are written underneath the most optimistic atmosphere, with the assumptions that all the provisions in the constitution will be respected. Can you imagine if the framers of constitutions were thinking about every future negative event while writing a constitution? The reason why Liberia finds herself in a senseless war was due to the violation of the constitution, and the remedy prescribed by the framers for those who violated the constitution is punishment by law not creating new laws to legitimize the violation of the constitution. Those who took up foreign citizenships knew at the time that they were violating the Liberian constitution, but went ahead any way. The senators admits in their introduction that 250,000 Liberians were killed, but not one person is currently being held accountable, but then turned around and try to use the misery of the departed to justifies an un-necessary law.  
 
 
 
 
Jewel Howard, 
From the National Patriotic Party  
 
While the constitution gives the National Legislature of Liberia powers to amend the citizenship laws of Liberia but it must be done in a way that will not be inconsistence with the constitution of Liberia. The Liberian constitution sets two conditions upon which one is a Liberian citizen. (a) Those who were citizenship when the constitution came into force, b) and that only people of Negro decent can become citizen of Liberia through birth and naturalization. With this in mind, the constitution also states that all law regarding Liberia’s citizenship must be designed to “to preserve, foster and maintain the positive Liberian culture, values and character.” This proposed law will undermine, not preserve foster and maintain the positive Liberian culture, values and character.  
 
 
 
Any Liberian that is allowed to have dual citizenship will have split allegiance between Liberia and the other country. Certain Liberian cultures and laws are in conflict with those of other countries. For instance, Liberia has two sets of laws, western and customary laws. There is a high degree of certainty that Liberia’s customary laws are in direct conflict with the laws of the United States and many other countries. Liberians who are citizens of another country while maintaining his or her Liberian citizenship will definite violate Liberia’s laws and cultures in order to keep his and her foreign citizenship. In essence, this will not foster and maintain the positive of Liberian culture, values and character that is required by the Liberian constitution. In fact if this bill goes through and becomes law, the next step will be to destroy those cultural elements of Liberia to prevent any inconsistency with the laws of those countries who citizenships these Liberians have. As you can see, this is the tip of the iceberg. The proposed dual citizenship is like giving an inch, let it pass, they will be asking for a yard, then a mile, the next thing you know Liberia as we know it will disappear in oblivion. This is why this bill has to be resisted at all costs.  
 
 
 
Sumo Kupee 
From the Liberia Action Party  
 
Another argument raised by the proponents of this bill is what happens to children of Liberian parents born outside Liberia? The Alien and Nationality laws of Liberia already addressed that. These children are Liberian citizens if they were born at the time when their parents were Liberians. A child can not lose his or her Liberian citizenship because the parents naturalized in another country. After carefully reading the current citizenship laws of Liberia one will find many safeguards that can address any of the concerns before us today, this is why this proposed dual citizens bill is not necessary for which these four senators and their supporters are unable to argue on the basic of national interest but offering excuses and reasons that are too personal. Liberia’s development should not rely on a handful of Liberians who by their own choice dumped their own country’s citizenship. It will be a detriment to our country, and will be setting a terrible precedence to change our laws to satisfy the interest of a very few. This law must be rejected by the National Legislature or veto by the president. The proponents of this law have failed to convince us by offering real and legitimate reasons, especially in the form of statistical data, that will certainly be challenged, to realistically determine the harm being done to our country without this law, or the benefits it will bring when it becomes law. 
 
It's cleared to this forum and the entire country that this bill will not be passed just to serve the needs of those guys that want to sell our 'Allegiance' to the Lebanise....PERIOD.. 
 
 
Eman.Togba 
street vendor
 
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10. 20-08-2008 18:43
 
Re: why not America-Prof. Larmena
Prof #4 post: 
I think you need to re-read your citation because it seems that you did not read this portion of the document: 
 
 
Quote:
However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship."

 
 
 
 
Now let me interpret your own citation for you: 
 
 
1. "a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship." This is the same laws that Liberia has. Remember that if you apply for a United States citizenship you have to take an oath to swear allegiance to America above all other interests. 
 
 
2. "In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily." This is the same as Liberian law. Those Liberians who became United States citizens did so voluntarily. No body forced them to acquire American citizenship. They could have maintained their greed card and still enjoy all the social and economic opportunities and rights of America, including the right to get employment, the right to get financial aid, the right to get credit cards, the right to buy a home, and all other accompany rights except the right to vote and hold elected offices in America. 
 
 
3. "the law requires that the person must apply... by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship." This is exactly what those Liberian did. They apply for American citizenship by free choice and understood that by doing so they were giving up their Liberian citizenship. So why should they now compel us to recognized and accept their betrayal of Liberia. 
 
4. "a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship." This means that if they want to become Liberian again, they must be willing to apply for Liberian citizenship which means that they would do the same thing they did to Liberia by giving up their American citizenship. 
 
I hope you learn something here professor.
 
Chorphie
11. 20-08-2008 22:10
 
Chorphie
If you read the post correctly too, it also states that a person who become a naturalize citizen of the United States will retain his or her citizenship from birth place. 
 
NOTE: 
 
A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. 
 
Because I am a naturalized citizen, I still can possess both passport without having any problem from the United States. However, if Liberia has a problem with that, so bad because I will use my Liberian passport when I am going to Liberia. What is so sorry about the Liberian law is that there is no means of enforcement. Your immigration officers are corrupt, etc.
 
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12. 20-08-2008 23:06
 
Process is Different from the Law itself
Prof. Larmena 
I know it is difficult for you to concede the point that one can lose their United States citizenship. But again, let me debuke your misunderstanding about the process of acquiring dual nationality as recognized by the United States from the law itself. 
 
The portion you just reference: 
Quote:
A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth. U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another.  

 
 
 
1. "A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage." This tells you a process of obtaining dual nationality if a United States citizenship wishes to do but it does not recognizes dual nationality. It simply means that a United States citizen is not prohibited from seeking citizenship of other nations. But , and that is where the other point comes in, if you apply for citizen of another country you will lose your United States citizenship. So the law does not prohibit any United States citizen from choosing to become another nation citizen. 
 
2. "or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen." This protion was speaking about those people who natural to become an American citizen. 
 
2a. "or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth." Now this one is tricky but here is the focus point.  
 
This passage is speaking to those people who were not born in the United States as citizen, it is speaking to people from other country who came to the United States and become citizens-it is talking about the paper citizens, and not the natural born citizens.  
 
But the tricky part is this, to become a United States citizen one must take an oath that reads:  
 
Quote:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;

 
 
The oath is clear that you must "renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity..... or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen." Do you notice the phase "subject or citizen." Do you notice the term "allegiance" and "sovereignty."  
 
This clearly tells you to denouce your former allegiance to your place of brith, so even if you want to remain a citizen of your place of brith your allegiance is with America and not your place of brith. This is the core issue, it is not whether you want to continue being a citizen of your place of birth but who do you hold your allegiance? 
 
3. "U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another." Now take a good read at the pharse, "U.S. law does not mention dual nationality." So what does U.S. law mention, only one nationality-to be an American.  
 
More interestingly, the passage further says that U.S. does not require you to "choose one citizenship or another" but U.S law demand that you swear allegiance only to America and not to another country. But the bottom line of this document was speaking more to people who were not natural born Americans, it was saying to them that if you want to keep your former citizenship, you are free to do so, America will not force you to give it up. This is simply for pyschological purpose. 
 
I hope you learn something here Professor.
 
Chorphie
13. 21-08-2008 06:36
 
Process is Different from the Law itself
Mr.Jack, 
 
Thank you very much for such a brillient contribution.POST#8. 
 
You said it all.You may be a dual citizen now or not,you still remain a help to your nation.Then,why fight to legalize it? 
 
Beside,the Liberian constitution was not silent on citizenship both abroad and home. 
 
You guys should think about how you can help your country and not to buy an idea who's intention is yet to be known. 
 
Note:The rest of your citizenships out of Liberia are survival techniques while you remain a Liberian by heart and perference. 
 
Eman.Togba 
street vendor
 
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14. 21-08-2008 10:14
 
Thank You
His Royal Courtesy, Emmanuel Togba, the street vendor: Thanks for the comments. 
 
My question is this: Where exactly is your "street-vending" business located my brother? I will not be able to buy the gold and diamond you probably sell, (because my pockets are torn) but I might send you some customers. Do we have a deal? 
 
On a serious note, we the Liberian people should engage ourselves in a high-level thinking process. I have not seen a diaper pin box that carries the label: "MADE IN LIBERIA"! You see, having a green card or becoming a citizen is very commodius, I understand that very well. But, it is a personal enhancement. If we wait until everyone gets a dual citizenship status, this 21st century will pass by before we know it. 
 
Up to date, kids who live in the rural parts of the country of Liberia do not have desks to sit on, insufficient textbooks (if any at all), notebooks and so on. I don't know why the presidents of the various Liberian organizations do not think about such things. 
 
The truth of the matter is that there are some good Liberians (like yourself and others) who would love to do something for Liberia. But it seems sometimes that the good ones are in the minority. 
 
Emmanuel, I am seriously thinking about writing a letter to the Liberian ambassador in the District of Columbia to discuss this issue. I think Liberians who are here in America can do a lot more to assist the "country of Liberia" by raising no more than $5.00 a piece in order to help the schools in Liberia. 
 
Madam EJS has said that colleges will be built in each county of the country. That's a good start! But, we'll need textbooks, desks, copiers and you name it! We have to help Liberia! 
 
The Chinese are building schools more than the people of Liberia. Sooner or later, (knowing some Liberian people) complaints will be made against Chinese people. The Chinese are this and that! 
 
In other words, we tend to "blame" others than ourselves. Well, that's because we focus on unimportant things sometimes. A typical example of an unimportant thing is the issue that's at hand: Dual Citizenship.  
 
I admit, it's good to be a dual citizen, but it's a personal enhancement. What do we do collectively for the REPUBLIC OF LIBERIA?  
 
We don't have to become "dual citizens" in order to help the country of Liberia!
 
Mr. Jack
15. 21-08-2008 14:09
 
Jack got it # 14
Quote:
We don't have to become "dual citizens" in order to help the country of Liberia!

 
 
BINGO!!! That is the point right there Jack. If these guys are real nationalists and patriots as they are claiming then they do not need to law to tell them to help their country. 
 
But this dual citizenship thing a simply another attempt elitist to exploit the suffering of our people. 
 
Did the Chinese become Liberian citizens before helping? Did the mmany Lebanese become Liberian citizens become they set up stores and other businesses in Liberia? Did Ghanians become Liberian citizens before they were teachers in almost all of our various institution of learning? Did all the Guineans become citizens before they ran transportation businesses in Liberia?  
 
Liberia is not ready for this dual citizenship thing, we need to focus on national development now.
 
Chorphie
16. 21-08-2008 19:26
 
They will not succeed!
Chorphie, 
 
Let's hang in there! 
 
Any attempt by them (the proponents of the DC issue) to shove the DC business down our throats will be met with stiff resistance. They will not succeed! Sooner or later, they'll smell the smoke. 
 
The country of Liberia is greater than their self-interests. We have to find ways in which Liberia will be helped. 
 
Bravo!
 
Mr. Jack
17. 22-08-2008 00:56
 
Mr. Jack and Chorphi
Mr. Jack and Chorphie, how much have you guys spent in Liberia so far this year. For me, I have invested more than $10.000 and still spending. Where are you guys? Are the real Liberians in America running your mouths? When last have you gone to Liberia if you live out of the country. I am planning on going back for the second time this year and using Liberian passport to go and my U.S. passport to return.  
 
STOP THE LIBERIAN SYNDROME
 
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18. 22-08-2008 16:42
 
Are your professor Hate-Liberia
Prof Larmena let me ask you this: do you hate Liberia? Why should we stop the Liberian syndrome-it is call PATRIOTISM and NATIONALISM and so I will not stop it. 
 
Do you think by going to Liberia make you any better than those who are in Liberia or those who have not gone to Liberia? Our country is not on sale for S10,000. 
 
If going to Liberia alone was the end itself, then why have some of you continue to complain about Charles Taylor rule? Afterall, according to your logic, "Taylor should not be question for anything he did in Liberia because he left America to go and not just invest with money but he invested his life on the battle field to liberate Liberians." 
 
 
Let me read something better from you man- than this "I invest $10,000 in Liberia for profiteering." Did you give the money free to the Liberian people? Your $10,000 is your personal investment to exploit our people for profit , it is not a humanitarian gesture.  
 
You just going back for the second time and you making all this noise. Kpo! kpo! kpo!
 
Chorphie
19. 23-08-2008 10:27
 
Patriotism and Nationalis come with suce
Chorphi,  
Please answer my question in my last post. Where do you reside currently? I hope you are in Liberian because those useless Liberians who talk about nationalism and patriatism stay outside the country and run theie dry mouths. 
How can one prove that he or she is patriotic?  
 
Do I have to give lazy Libeians my money to contribute to the economy. Are you one of those Liberians who chase foriegners for help when they come to Liberia because you are so lazy to work for your own independence?  
 
At least I can employ few Liberians with the few thousands of dollars that I send to invest, what have you done as far as investing in Liberia in recent months or years? 
 
STOP THE LIBERIAN SYNDROME
 
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20. 23-08-2008 13:25
 
How Much ?
Professor Larmena, 
 
In post number 17, you pose a question that deserves an answer. I have spent less than $10,000.00 in Liberia this year! There is no need for me to tell a blatant lie! Chorphie is a competent comrade, he will respond if he wants to. 
 
There are many ways in which one's patriotism can be shown. There are some who spend money to build a house for themselves or support a charity of their interest. If they consider that a typical example of patriotism, that's fine! There are some (like you) who spend money to open up a small-size business. There are various ways all of us contribute to the development process of Liberia! Another thing you should understand is this: If a Liberian has been unable to spend as much money as you,(for whatever reason in Liberia) you have no right to question his/her patriotism. Don't do that, Professor. 
 
As we aspire to make our country a likeable, loveable and liveable country, we must obligate ourselves to the principle of friendly persuasion rather than confrontation. 
 
Personally, I have a proposal. I hope you and others can come up with suggestions that will enable all of us to assist Liberia in a mighty way. 
 
Schools in Liberia (especially in the counties) need textbooks, copiers, fax machines, and so on. How can we in the U.S. help our little ones in Liberia?  
 
I propose that all of us (in the U.S.) come up with $5.00 in order for our schools in Liberia to be helped. 
 
If 50,000 thousand Liberians would be willing to donate at least $5.00 in a "single" fund-raiser, we would net $250,000.00. 
 
If you or anyone has suggestions, please contact me. If this idea works, it will be seen as an act of patriotism. 
 
The more we come together, the better".
 
Mr. Jack
21. 23-08-2008 14:54
 
RE: Patriotism and Nationalis come with
Quote:
those useless Liberians who talk about nationalism and patriatism stay outside the country and run theie dry mouths.  

 
 
Mr. Professor Larmena, by your reasoning then those who are supporting dual citizehship are Quote:
useless Liberians who ... stay outside the country and run theie dry mouths.